kane dont you think thats just a little bit harsh? i asked you to back out of asia majoritily our territory and that we wanted to expand into siam and india and you replied with if you want your units to die then try. i have no personal quarry with you kane but acting like the dominant alliance that cares for nothing ranked lower than it gets you into this spot exactly i did it with gs on e5 things were a bit less coordinated there and we won. so with that statement i close and wish you the best of luck i look forward to coming against you personally for the first occasion in battle.

wah wah wah.. everyone ganging up on the school yard bullies

have a taste of your own medicine.

Eh?
You ordered me out of lands we were in before you, and told me that you were going to take over the Middle East but that I would be "allowed to keep a few gates to maintain conquers"... you don't talk to anyone that way, especially someone you're supposed to be friendly with.

Your leader broke an agreement we discussed at length and you lied to me personally regarding taking OPs to be used against ZEUS, so don't give me that rubbish.

@Dukey, a taste of my own medicine? Oh I'm sorry, when was the time I arranged a war against you where I had 15 times your numbers, I always keep the numbers fair, if you can supply me a time when I did this to someone I'll be glad to withdraw my complaints. I can't wait to see you try to think of something.

i did no such thing about ops near zues i had plans to take zues from the beginning but when utm accepted the nap i didnt go after the ops did i? so tell me again how i lied.

Testing**Gauntlet..gauntlet* ohh good..I can post now

Well it seems like your members know who's 'going to win'.

Is it possible that now we have MupT prepping some excuses?
You accused Prr of trying to steal members, what hypocrisy after your latest little stunt....

Don't worry, if it doesn't come out it will. I'll make sure of it and the world will see your nice and honourable tactics.... yet again.

Haha kanes messages to alliance members asking them to conquer prr colonies that just relocated is kinda a low blow especially offering an alliance invitation when you know for a fact all of your members are 100% active and staying till mupt falls or the round ends.

Haha -TNT2 you orchestrated 31 subs and 10 alliances vs 1 alliance. The only major alliance to stand out of this was SS! We thought it a bit unfair. ~ go on come up with an excuse if you like but I was there in all the MSN conversations, I saw all the planning and I saw it excecuted. Sniper and afew others will remember it clearly. So withdraw your complaints NOW!

As for calling the world subs...I find it difficult to understand where you are coming from. You treated Euro2 like a sub which forced their leader to quit and write about it all up on the forums. Prr has not treated anyone like a sub, GA and didn't want you in Africa and helped remove you early in the game. When you came around again, GA stuck to their guns and on seeing the extent of the invasion called on TNT(their close allies) to help them out.

You mentioned earlier about what was going on in the East. Well everything there seems to be finshed or worked out. Why wouldn't they head in for an alliance that wasn't letting them expand?

Doom obviously a capable alliance were taken out early by you, probably could have been good allies to you but for a few more crystals you betrayed their trust!

Once again, you openly lie about or distort everything that is happening.

I don't like subs, but this isn't a sub alliance working against you, it is just alliances doing what is best for them. You can take this as a complitment if you like or you could go away lock yourself in a room and work out what is wrong with your e-personality!

Hmm... It's kind of funny Kane. I guess that you think that you are the only one that mattters and should receive help. I do recall UTM having MS right below us, RTF, RTF2, and SAGA right at the west of us all basically at our doorstep and MupT not helping.
And I also recall our conversation before E4 started when you were supposed to be ARM. Then ARM fell apart and you made a new alliance which you refused to tell me the name of, and when I asked you if we were still going to do the NAP, you said that you were not sure what you wanted to do.
And I do have to say, I feel that UTM was very fair. We declared war on MupT with plenty of advance notice. It just seems to me that you are mad because you think that UTM should be at your disposal, and it is not.

SS stayed out because they were afraid of getting knocked down first, that was the only reason, I'll dig through your old chat logs to prove it if I have to.

TNT2 declared war on me, had a good few subs, and allies. Cheated, and I had proof of the cheating. So don't get me started and crying foul for TNT2.

2nd. GA wanted us out of South America, not Africa.
3rd. It was the EURO leader that quit, not EUR2. For someone who seemed to have a lot of problems with us he never once voiced them, he left without a single complaint to us prior to us having a radar near them. We never once showed any hostility, he was merely looking for an excuse to quit.

Know who else was just doing what was best for them? KOH in E1A4, you clearly didn't seem to think so at the time.

As for UTM, wrong again Stinky. Just because I don't relocate my pod for them and bow to the demands of some 3rd party doesn't mean I'm not letting them expand. They had dozens of ticks of space to expand into before they reached our borders, so expansion has nothing to do with it. In fact I invited them to come expand into Europe awhile back, so don't pretend I tried to stifle their growth.

Godbob, what a load of crap. I wanted to keep my alliance name a surprise because we thought it was funny. We signed a NAP until 500, and I kept you informed on everything we were doing. Fair? Hardly. We had a personal deal between the two of us and you threw it out the window without so much as a word to me about it.