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 Post subject: Re: So FINALLY!!!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:33 pm 
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correct i have to agree with you that there are more ops then players but you have to consider there are also other players capturing ops such as your other 2 players in your alliance must have captured a fair few ops and so did the other big alliances the reason is why you only had miles more then anyone else???

retaking ops yes but 6500 thats a hell of a lot and considering you comfortably had the most i doubt anyone else got anywhere near 2500

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 Post subject: Re: So FINALLY!!!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:36 pm 
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correct i have to agree with you that there are more ops then players but you have to consider there are also other players capturing ops such as your other 2 players in your alliance must have captured a fair few ops and so did the other big alliances the reason is why you only had miles more then anyone else???

retaking ops yes but 6500 thats a hell of a lot and considering you comfortably had the most i doubt anyone else got anywhere near 2500


They didn't take any OPs at all.. On M1 I simply had the entire world to myself, quite literally the entire world. The only other person that took OPs was Yancan, and occasionally someone sending a spam at outposts. For the rest the world seemed to focus on conquers and occasionally on mass spamming me.

Anyway, after checking the screenie.. Gollum took the grand total of 87 OPs and Gene took 251. So they really didn't take that many, lol.

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 Post subject: Re: So FINALLY!!!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:43 pm 
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hmm very well i cant see that much on you so ill watch and wait to see what other people post forward and sit and watch with the popcorn 8-)

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 Post subject: Re: So FINALLY!!!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:48 pm 
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Only read the first page as I can see this is just a flame fight between some players.

The screenshots you provided aren't the only ones in question Milan there's many circumstances where you took over 10+ outposts in one time from conquers of yours that put up absolutely no fight. When you take 50 outposts 500 units killed 0 units lossed in a single 24 tick span there is red flags.

I've got screenshots if you're willing to see them without getting upset. I'm not going to directly say you were cheating but the looks of things the evidence is only fitting that you were in some way.

That's all I'll say about the reasoning behind the ban as it won't get either of us any where in the long run. I'm just ashamed mainly that an admin would pull stunts like this and then come on the forum and try to defend himself when it's not necessary. A good staff member would speak directly to Michael, Andrew, and Seth whomever has the authority privately to get the issue settled. As from my personal experience, trying to defend your case on the forums just shows how immature and reckless you really are.

If you were cheating just man up and play the game fair like others. If you see cheating report it. Don't act like the admins are ignoring you because they need substantial evidence before punishing someone and in this case I'm positive they had some against you. Joe on the other hand I could see banning before checking evidence but not Andrew.

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 Post subject: Re: So FINALLY!!!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:58 pm 
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Why isn't At non Stulte banned? He was the one who spammed 14 outposts, should he not be banned for this?


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 Post subject: Re: So FINALLY!!!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:11 pm 
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This goes to show that if you buy reds when playing battledawn, you get what you want.

If Battledawn were a state it would be Zimbabwe, full of corruption and ruled by the rich elite who just cheat and lie to their benefit.

Also guys, andrew is mugabe in this one. Not Micheal because micheal is more like God/The Devil in this analogy. Senatus is the poor aspiring business man just trying to make his way in life. And you, the reader, is an idiot for thinking this was a serious post.

ba dung ga dung

But seriously, BD is so blatantly corrupt it hurts. There was no evidence other than "suspicions" against Milanoano, and he was banned for this. If I, in real life, said to the police "ppsssst, that guy there. Yeh over there. He TOTALLY commits bestiality and routinely cheats the welfare system. Please arrest him, here, have a hundred dorra." You wouldn't convict a man on my testimony, would you?

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 Post subject: Re: So FINALLY!!!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:18 pm 
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Ok as none of you are Andrew you can not say there is no proof.

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 Post subject: Re: So FINALLY!!!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:39 pm 
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on a 0 control op
HD sents me message after im going for ops in an area were there getting a ton of ops without anyone defending :O

hey why you sniping us on those noob ops ! ? do you want war ?return your troops now mate

explain

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 Post subject: Re: So FINALLY!!!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:42 pm 
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Are you Andrew?¿
Where is the proof then?¿

Do you usually perma ban any1 without giving him a reason / answering him the right tick you banned him?¿

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 Post subject: Re: So FINALLY!!!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:08 pm 
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There's 2500+ players in E1 right now.... there's obviously going to be a minority of players who are going to build mass amounts of OPs because they have no clue. ZeN had some, HA had some, ND had some. But Milan's getting all the flak because there's obviously some sort of grudgefest going on around here (looking at mfreak here, the hate REEKS). Also we indeed saw the OPs before Senatus launched but we let Sen take them; it was part of our game plan for him to grow as quickly as possible. We had ZERO contact with any of these people, and if there was ANY contact it would be their hate mail, telling us to leave their OPs alone.

And about At non stulte, I conquered him early on in the era (about tick 100 or less), and from that point he launched two attacks; first with 100+ ranged inf AT, and then after a couple mass boosts later, this:
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Very nasty BR, so I relocated him from the hive after that. I didn't bother to reconquer him because he was literally giving 0/0 income (Troll much?). Soon enough he went on to build the OP field which led to Sen getting banned. If anything Senatus was blatantly -framed-, and good ol' Andrew actually believed it.

IF we were not supposed to take OP farms like this, the rules were certainly not made clear. At least delete the OPs or hand out a fair warning, but too bad Admin Andrew is too inactive to do it, thus the permaban which was too harsh and not justified whatsoever IMO.


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When you can ask your friends to build, and spend no E jamming and scanning people, then you will also ask them to build outposts. I dont trust you do one thing and dont get them to do another. Using others resources is farming. Simple as that. And I think you are guilty.


If you have been observing the war between ND and G/G2, we did not do a single mass jam on their colonies/OPs because we cannot afford to do so. We are constantly out of energy, we only jam and scan when it's necessary. By your logic, if we do not have friends jamming stuff for us, then it's certainly impossible for them to be building OPs for us, no?

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The screenshots you provided aren't the only ones in question Milan there's many circumstances where you took over 10+ outposts in one time from conquers of yours that put up absolutely no fight. When you take 50 outposts 500 units killed 0 units lossed in a single 24 tick span there is red flags.


Are you claiming that 50 OPs, 500 units killed, 0 units lost in a 24 tick span in a -1 tick world- is absolutely impossible without cheating? Without the entire team taking the OPs, Senatus has Africa all to himself. And where are these numbers coming from?

We also have plenty screenshots of our own of others but they're so blatantly ignored it doesn't even matter anymore.

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That's all I'll say about the reasoning behind the ban as it won't get either of us any where in the long run. I'm just ashamed mainly that an admin would pull stunts like this and then come on the forum and try to defend himself when it's not necessary. A good staff member would speak directly to Michael, Andrew, and Seth whomever has the authority privately to get the issue settled. As from my personal experience, trying to defend your case on the forums just shows how immature and reckless you really are.


Who are you to decide what a ~good~ staff member should do? Have you been a staff member before? This is also a forum, we are SUPPOSED to discuss matters at hand. People are calling him out, he has the full rights to defend himself. If anything the immature one is the thread OP, who's still babbling about a world which ended 6 months ago and talking about XP abuse (are you freaking serious LOL). And yes, he is in fact talking to the admins directly through skype to get this issue settled once and for all if you didn't know already.

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If you were cheating just man up and play the game fair like others. If you see cheating report it. Don't act like the admins are ignoring you because they need substantial evidence before punishing someone and in this case I'm positive they had some against you. Joe on the other hand I could see banning before checking evidence but not Andrew.

We do report possible multis, possible OP farms. This is what we get as an example:
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Tick 238/240 messages to admin Andrew unopened, and it's tick 300 in a one tick server. ARE YOU SERIOUS. Do we need to donate reds to at least make him open it, and much more for action to be taken?

That's really all I have to say about this matter. We've been planning this world out for months, gathering our best teammates, have a good time. Real shame there's so much hate and bull going on around here.

edit: woops messed up quotes.. brb editing

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