i dont reallysee whats wrong with naming an alliance after the ottoman empire

i think the ottoman empire practiced genecide if i am reading this thread correctly. even though ive never heard bout it in history class when i was in school

I dont know the exact history, but Ill try to read up shortly. But whatever I saw on TV on the History channel, showed the Ottoman empire, committing atrocious crimes against the Armenians at that time. It is also a widely acknowledged fact that it is indeed a Genocide. Only Turkey denies it for obvious reasons.

The British ethnographer, William Ramsay, writing in the late 1890s after having visited the Ottoman Empire, described the conditions of the Armenians:

Turkish rule...meant unutterable contempt...The Armenians (and Greeks) were dogs and pigs...to be spat upon, if their shadow darkened a Turk, to be outraged, to be the mats on which he wiped the mud from his feet. Conceive the inevitable result of centuries of slavery, of subjection to insult and scorn, centuries in which nothing belonged to the Armenian, neither his property, his house, his life, his person, nor his family, was sacred or safe from violence – capricious, unprovoked violence – to resist which by violence meant death.

Source: Wikipedia.

when did the Turks win E1?

Was that old client?

Yeah I had an armenian math teacher last semester. He educated us on the whole order of affairs. Pretty intense. Lots of strong feelings in the descendants

you guys doing propaganda and good work. people affected

guys , i am a catholic Russian and i living Turkey. i have so much muslim Turk friend.

every neigbhor nation of Armenians have trouble. (Georgia, Turkey,Azerbajian...) in was soviet time , Turkey joined NATO because caused this peoples. what would happen if a powerful economic country Turkey if join Soviets... can u imagine? maybe Rossiya would be a strong on middle east. and other Turkish countries joined soviets... but just Turkey not joined. And Usa come established base on Turkey. and living american dreams. ( cmon guys We are know Iraq war for oil. )

armania country has small little economy,and they people poor living.. this propaganda caused. closed its doors to turkey and Azarbejian. just have iran export and inport. change your ideas now turkey will not give land. or money. so you guys never dont understand and never... just like

Obvious Google Translate is obvious.

Anyways, why is everyone posting on a year old topic?

Cyberpunk, no one is doing propaganda. Its just plain facts. The thread is about someone naming an alliance as TOE - The Ottoman Empire, when they were fighting ARM - Armenia. So people got offended and posted this thread. What some people are doing, is to come here and defend turkey. Its simple facts that I pointed out for example. No one is talking about the Armenian economy and such, its just about history, and its out there for everyone to see.

And yeah Ponk, its a pointless topic You could lock it if it doesnt serve any purpose.