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Seth · **Posted:** Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:33 pm

No. A valid player can place anywhere they want. The difference is not hard to spot.

A valid player isnt going to rush a bunch of 1 unit squads, drop protection and start hitting everything in sight. But then, you already know that.

I am not looking for players who actually intend to stick around and play fairly. Their primary interst is common sense, setting one-self up for the 'long haul'. You don't get that by placing in the hive of a top alliance and blowing your entire load, and protection, on suicide army.

RubberrAmmo · **Posted:** Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:02 pm

i disagree then , if you allow a player to place a colony on any tick except HavoK and anywere on the map , then that player should be valid , even if player blows their resource's on spammin an alliance in their hive .

Slinkybd · **Joined:** Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:20 pm **Posts:** 1183

RubberrAmmo wrote:

i disagree then , if you allow a player to place a colony on any tick except HavoK and anywere on the map , then that player should be valid , even if player blows their resource's on spammin an alliance in their hive .

Do you have any valid arguments though? Its fine to disagree but if you have nothing to back yourself up, rather than it just not sitting well with you there's nothing we can do or say to help

RubberrAmmo · **Posted:** Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:28 pm

thats a little insulting i think to say my discussion isnt valid . Firstr off this aint suggestions its discussion , I already know its against the rulz and No you arent gonna change my mind on this , I think its DEAD WRONG to ban any player for attacking another player under any circumstance's , even if they follow that player to each world at tick 5000 and join , its a WAR GAME

no it dosent sit well with me that i can be banned if i plant a colony after 500 and I decide to build 50 spam and attack everything withen reach of my greedy little hungry squads So i can downgrade and raze ops , and i dont care were you build your colony in the later ticks , the top alliance's have ops everywhere and you dont have to be in there hive to get banned , their still gonna run to the administers crying im harrasing them and in my case im not .. i simply want to take their stuff and turn it into resource's so i can build my army to ultimately destroy them , i think the entire harrasment slave farming case is BS , your playing a war game , not smurF ville
Thats my message , You dont have to like it or agree with it cause ultamently it dosent matter either way , its not gonna change anything

Seth · **Posted:** Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:29 pm

RubberrAmmo wrote:

i disagree then , if you allow a player to place a colony on any tick except HavoK and anywere on the map , then that player should be valid , even if player blows their resource's on spammin an alliance in their hive .

If this happened all the time, then this game would become virtually unplayable. As it stands, it is hard enough to mask when you are and are not online, as players have developed several means of testing this dynamically. It is already hard enough to manage a job, school or sleep without worrying about how many 'friends' your opponent can summon on a moment's notice to come out of nowhere and cover a gap you have been strategically setting up for days, weeks or months.

That being said, if you had to worry constantly about such dishonest means of playing , BD would become so frustrating and unplayable that honest, fair playing individuals would simply leave in droves. This would effectively destroy the game.

So, while you are entitled to your opinions, I believe it is in the best interest that we maintain a fair, honest playing field. Otherwise, why bother playing at all, let alone fairly?

RubberrAmmo · **Posted:** Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:46 pm

Well guys thanks for the good conversation , im leaving it to you now cause im getting a little frustrated with it .
really enjoyed it , till next time

Slinkybd · **Joined:** Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:20 pm **Posts:** 1183

RubberrAmmo wrote:

Well guys thanks for the good conversation , im leaving it to you now cause im getting a little frustrated with it .
really enjoyed it , till next time

Didnt mean to insult you, I just viewed this more so as a rant than a discussion or a suggestion. :ugeek:

Hope you have a good day though :idea:

Mike · **Posted:** Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:37 pm

princekael2 wrote:

Korupt wrote:

RubberrAmmo wrote:

its just sad they have to do that at all , In my opinion harrassment should be classified to strictly vulgar profanity and abusive flaming language via pm's and BC's , not attacks .

Okay then let me propose a situation for you and see how you feel about it after that. A person does very well on a round and his alliance of hand picked players dominates another skilled alliance. Now the next round that player goes to place his one of the people he beat comes when he is just starting the round and boosts just to suicide into him and he does that not just on one round but every round he finds the player that beat him. Does that not ruin this game for the original player? And all that simply because he beat someone, now you may say this is a rare case but unfortunately it is not that rare so my question is do you think that person placing and trolling him constantly should really be allowed to continue that harassment?

if that person has the money to boost those tokens, and wants to, whats to stop him from doing it? ur trying to tell me if u beat me on F1 i shouldnt be allowed to place F1 near u and fight u early in the round ever again?

A difference exists between beating someone and just trying to ruin their round. In the first one you are going for the win and you take them on in a straight fight in the second you simply place and suicide into them or place in a strategic location and spam their network. Something like that.

RubberrAmmo · **Posted:** Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:03 pm

No its wrong , battledawn's policy to ban spammers makes no sence because no reason thats been given dosent already happen ingame all game long . And your allowed to plant a colony anytime anywere ..just dont attack the supporter guy or you might get banned because their pampered babys .

I really believe its an option of class awarded as favoratism , oh my precious supporter guy did that big bad spammer hurt you !!! i'll fix it and ban him ok .. all better ? now you pm me next time anybody attacks you and i'll check them out real good and ban them to . now go back to oppressing the world honey .

wussys

princekael2 · **Joined:** Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:32 pm **Posts:** 238

Seth wrote:

RubberrAmmo wrote:

i disagree then , if you allow a player to place a colony on any tick except HavoK and anywere on the map , then that player should be valid , even if player blows their resource's on spammin an alliance in their hive .

If this happened all the time, then this game would become virtually unplayable. As it stands, it is hard enough to mask when you are and are not online, as players have developed several means of testing this dynamically. It is already hard enough to manage a job, school or sleep without worrying about how many 'friends' your opponent can summon on a moment's notice to come out of nowhere and cover a gap you have been strategically setting up for days, weeks or months.

That being said, if you had to worry constantly about such dishonest means of playing , BD would become so frustrating and unplayable that honest, fair playing individuals would simply leave in droves. This would effectively destroy the game.

So, while you are entitled to your opinions, I believe it is in the best interest that we maintain a fair, honest playing field. Otherwise, why bother playing at all, let alone fairly?

seth there is a fine difference between the circumstances ur describing and what admins (HI SIMMEN I STILL DONT LIKE YOU!!) actually ban players for doing, both under the same impression. i placed once on E1 just to watch, i was there since tick one. i dont usually play earth so i didnt know any of the players, exept for 1 team which was DEF, them having backstabbed me in a fantasy era not too long before that point in time. i was in africa just watching, i was though building units and structures and logging in daily. when i got my xtal i had bout 2 squads of ranged vechs. CBop, who had me conquered at that point in time, msged me and asked if i could move my units so they could take my xtal. he said no point in dying for it, and waited till i got on the next day before taking it. once he took my xtal, he left me in peace again. once CBop was getting destroyed by DEF, things changed. DEF decided to send units at my colony to kill what i had, and to reconquer me, my conquer having died just a little bit before that. i at that point split all my squads into teams of 3, 1 armor 2 range, and started spamming DEF's OPs. i asked them nicely to stop attacking me, and i didnt need 2 spam them either. the next time i logged into BD, i was banned. once i went on E1, i was banned for being a farm placed just to help a team, when this was not the case. He didnt lift my ban, but i had to wait my 24 hours, and got conquered in F1, where i was a member of M, who as u know just won the era

. was my ban fair? i think not, but simmen banned me for doing it anyways. does this have anything simular to the situation you described, no. thats a good reason why its not completly fair. in extreme circumstances where people just place and spam i believe they should be banned. but simmen had NO right to ban me at that point in time. i from then on decided never to pay a penny to BD again, i was once a supporter but i wont support ever again thanks to simmen's unfair ban. he cost me 20 conquerers (they got released when i got conquered) on F1, for NOTHING at all. you review what happened, and if u still think i should have been banned then w/e. but you are a fair admin, i think you will see the unjust that occured that day. i lost 3rd place to raider by 100 score, had i been not banned, i would have been 3rd, but i got 4th.

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