Taking mL's relic with no warning kind of makes me wish that we had taken out ya'lls as it passed by ours the other day while we were fully loaded. Of course that would have been very low down of us, and we would have resembled Lirik. Greedy......And to think that I used to think of Lirik as a top player. Ahh, well. Lesson learned. Let the whining begin about how this wasn't a betrayal. I will be waiting with rapt attention ..........

EDIT 1:On second thought, I certainly hope that this was the act of one cowardly member rather than an alliance of players who, for the most part, have always spoken with disdain for this type of tactic.


EDIT 2: Nevermind. The great Kane was in on it. Imagine that.....Gaurav surprises me a bit, but then again, I suppose we should have expected it by his tone here on the forums. Let it never be said that Kane plays with honor. I realize that he's going to get on here and wax poetic of his great worth and how this is not a betrayal. I also suspect that he will try to cut down all who disagree with him. This is the reason I played only one round with him and then never again, though he has asked me to twice. I refuse to play with those that display no honor.......Good show, O' great BD Hall of Fame player! You continue to build your reputation! Oh, wait........

mL have absolutely no room to complain or accuse on our actions.

Whilst we may have been friendly with mL, as we are with many of the other top alliances including UE, we had no NAP or no formal agreements with mL.

We did have a NAP with mL for 1000 ticks at the start of the round but this ran out @ tick 1500 and was never renewed.

You cannot accuse F69 or single out any member of F69 to accuse them of backstabs, treachery, poor judgement or any other such term. It is particulary disappointing that you question Kane's honour as he was one of the 1st people to check on the diplomatic status of mL.

There was no agreement, therefore your relic was fair game.

If you want to blame anyone - find out who looks after your diplomatic arrangements and ask why no new agreement was ever asked for ?

Case closed.

Thanks
Mo.

I was never contacted about renewing our agreement. I'm wondering what the point of marking each other friendly is if we can attack one another. Doesn't that kind of defeat the point of being FRIENDLY?

It's plain and simple, UE was losing units and close to surrendering. They begged F69 for help and then one of your members threatened to leave the alliance if you did not assist. So instead of being honorable, you took advantage of the situation knowing full well 1/3 of our army was in Asia.

Well done boys, I'm glad I could learn your ways my first round so I never make the mistake of trusting you guys again.

LoL.....Surely you jest. You betrayed a friendly alliance without warning, attacking one of our relics when we could have easily taken out two of yours less than 48 ticks ago. I do call Kane's honor into question, as I do Gaurav's, your's, and Lirik's. Matter of fact, this casts a shadow of doubt over the whole of f69. Checking on diplomatic status lets nobody off the hook, as it just shows premeditation on the part of the one doing the checking. By your own admission, you guys had us marked as friendly. I even saw a screenshot to that effect here on the forums just yesterday, though I will now have to go back and find it. For this reason, why would anybody wish to be friendly with you? Obviously, f69 is untrustworthy.

However, I do understand your motives. Greed does that to lesser man. mL took the high road and refrained from attacking two of your relics as they passed over Africa over the last 60 ticks or so. f69 couldn't resist the temptation and gave in to treachery, which I was worried about, given some of your players. I have no problem with that, as I'm sure f69 is intent on winning the round. No shame there. The shame, of which I'm sure f69 feels none, comes into play by doing so without warning. How many times in the past have your members, specifically Kane, whined and cried when somebody turned on him without formally changing relations? I haven't perused the old forums in a long time, but if they are still there, anybody can go and look up Kane's track record for whining about such things. If he comes on here and makes a case for this treachery, I go on record as saying that it will make him a hypocrite.

And no, I'm not picking on Kane because he's not here (yet). He just happens to be the highest profile member of f69 and will be on here shortly to make his points. Points, I might add, that he has most likely argued AGAINST in the past, due to the situation being reversed.

Also, Mo, I go on record: I do not accuse f69 of poor judgment. You did what you felt you had to do. I do state that you allowed greed to blind you and lead you to betray a friendly alliance. That would indeed make f69 an alliance of traitors. I am proud to be in an alliance that allowed YOUR relics to pass within 12 ticks of 5000+ mL units a day and a half ago without even considering an attack on them. mL attacking an alliance marked as friendly? NEVER! f69 attacking an alliance marked as friendly! Well OF COURSE!

Before I go off on a rant, I want to be sure... cbuzz24 is LoW correct?

As for what happened, plain and simple, we had no NAP. Rederum knew that we had no NAP. There is no reason you should be surprised here. You tried to mobilize the world against UE and are now complaining that someone decided to help them. Quit whining.

You can call my a hypocrite, you can say I have no honor... but it just comes down to you whining. We had no agreement, and we had several reasons to help UE. You are just venting, please next time try to throw some shreds of accuracy in there to make your rantings more believable.

By the way, Lirik is a better and more honorable player than you will ever be.

I can't think of who I've asked to play with me who has refused.

-Statement Retracted- My apologies to LoW, I thought it was you.

I find it very sad that mL can not keep up with their diplomatic agreements. Most top alliances realize when a NAP is over there is a possibility for war and therefore should renegotiate the NAP or expect attacks.

When the mL relic was near us loaded with there units we were well aware of our NAP agreements and acted accordingly. It is too bad that mL will choose to call this recent move a dishonorable act due to their lack of complacency.

This is a war game and therefore one should always expect war...especially when a NAP is over with an alliance.

Cbuzz is not LoW

Hard to argue with Mo,Kane, and Shiz...

Then don't and stay out of it unless you have something worthwhile to contribute.

I was not arguing. And you know what? I do. Go F69 ^^


As Renee said, this is a game of war. Expect a war every now and than