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 Post subject: sub abusing going to far
PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:48 am 
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this NWO family has spread like wildfire

its sad to see so many idiots joining up and making numerous subs

NWO
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a main + 10 subs

wow seriously?

this is going to far and i feel the need to intervene soon

i mean seriously 10 SUBS ?!!?!?1 wth man

all this means for me is having a see of HOSTILE alliances . so NWO please mark GODS hostile as we have marked you hostile now :)

when i find the time you and your sub abusing days are over

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 Post subject: Re: sub abusing going to far
PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:53 am 
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well nWo had 21 subs last time xD

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 Post subject: Re: sub abusing going to far
PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:03 pm 
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nWo has been a sub abuser since the old client. I remember the first time i saw them they had over 10 subs by tick 350 xD

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 Post subject: Re: sub abusing going to far
PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:08 pm 
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i would
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 Post subject: Re: sub abusing going to far
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:13 am 
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chad_j93 wrote:
this NWO family has spread like wildfire

its sad to see so many idiots joining up and making numerous subs

NWO
NWOV
NWOM
NWOO
NWOW
NWOD
NW0
NWOK
NWOA
NWON
and now RNWO

a main + 10 subs

wow seriously?

this is going to far and i feel the need to intervene soon

i mean seriously 10 SUBS ?!!?!?1 wth man

all this means for me is having a see of HOSTILE alliances . so NWO please mark GODS hostile as we have marked you hostile now :)

when i find the time you and your sub abusing days are over


Totally agree Chad and same with us NWO mark us hostile.. gone to far and given enough rope to hang yourself's

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 Post subject: Re: sub abusing going to far
PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:36 am 
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Hey all, long time online gamer but pretty new to BD.

The viral model that nWo is using to win by attrition seems like an effective tactic but a bit dodgy. Let's face it, when you have a third of the active participants working together it would seem that victory is assured.

When I was approached to be a member of nWo it was explained to me that the subs are the key to the alliance's success. That the stronger the subs are the better it is for everyone. Makes sense to me.

It was also explained that as individual players in the subs rose to the top ranks they would be shifted from the subs into the central nWo alliance. Don't think that is happening, but the only evidence I have of that is the high score list.

Is it abuse? Nah. Even though individual alliances are limited to 12 members, there is no rule stating that alliances cannot work together for an indefinite period of time. Personally, it seems like an easy way to dominate a world. Surround yourself with scores of players willing to build troops and send them after targets of your choice until, one by one, they fall.

One of the ways I see to counter it is if the non-nWo alliances make a pact to eliminate the nWo subs before going about their business, but I doubt that will happen. It would require alliance leaders to spend the time and effort to actually put aside their differences and to work together. From what I have seen, that isn't going to happen.

So, unless the other alliance leaders are willing to step up and change the way they do things (i.e., evolve) they will all be ground away one at a time.

As for me, I would rather be conquered repeatedly than to follow the masses. ;)


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 Post subject: Re: sub abusing going to far
PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:48 am 
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Subs do not assure anything.

Plenty of alliances with subs have lost some have won --depending on the situation and competition...and of course many have defeated alliances and subs as well.

Poisonsting wrote:
When I was approached to be a member of nWo it was explained to me that the subs are the key to the alliance's success. That the stronger the subs are the better it is for everyone. Makes sense to me.


The key to any alliance's success is activity and smart movements, that's it, you don't need a sub. In my eyes subs are 'used' (you'll read used differently than what I am meaning, I am sure of it) for their units. Point being as; you will fight the enemies of the main alliance -- you will sacrifice your units to put a dent even a little one in the enemy after that the main alliance can swoop in and finish (rarely happen? I don't know) OR a sub defending the land as in where your main lost their armies and you're buying them time to rebuild.


- But just to point it out to you, a SUB is not a way to an alliance's success. It is earned by yours (and your alliance's) own activity and movements (game play), your (sub) success means little to the main your purpose there is for THEM to win and not your own -- deep down, as long as you have an army they will want you -- if you don't you're useless.

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 Post subject: Re: sub abusing going to far
PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:55 am 
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Subs can be very handy but when you have 15+ and try dominate a world by this is just ridiculous.. to much inhouse fighting over subs stealing crystals and conquers and most of all space to build nuke farms or gates, having 2 subs is maximum i think and thats just my opinion anyhow..

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 Post subject: Re: sub abusing going to far
PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:27 am 
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it's just 11 subs :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: sub abusing going to far
PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:37 am 
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I'm going to throw out a reason of why a lot of subs won't help you win and the reason I'm going to give repeats...to the others in the sub..and the others ones...so on and so forth..

Here is your reason, and it is repetitive from the other colonies that I got;
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Now...how is this the key to success, don't get me wrong I don't have anything against subs as long as it's one or two...but this is just plain overboard and wrong. Enough is enough :!:

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